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What do eigenfunctions and eigenvalues mean physically?

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Lets say we have a mass connected to a spring.Assuming not any friction the ODE which describes the system is

$m\frac{d^{2}x}{dt^{2}} = -kx$

We can set 2 Dirichlet boundary conditions $x(0)=0$ and $x(c)=0$ where $c$ will depend on $k,m$

If we solve the boundary condition problem we end up with a set of eigenvalues and eigenfunctions. Do the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues have a physical meaning?

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What eigenvalues/eigenfunctions are you referring to? (3 comments)
What eigenvalues/eigenfunctions are you referring to?
Derek Elkins‭ wrote over 1 year ago

I'm not quite sure how you are getting an eigenfunction problem or what you expect the eigenfunctions look like. Can you elaborate? Ignoring the $x(c)=0$ condition momentarily, we can easily show that the solution to this ODE is $x(t) = a\sin(t\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}})$ with $a$ free. Adding the $x(c)=0$ condition back in either forces $a=0$ (if $c$ isn't a zero of the sine wave) or tells us nothing.

You can view this particular problem as finding an eigenfunction with eigenvalue $-k$ for the linear differential operator $m\frac{d^2}{dt^2}$ which satisfies the conditions. I don't think this is what you're referring to, but I'm not sure what you are referring to.

Volpina‭ wrote over 1 year ago

Just suppose we solve this problem as boundary condition problem,not by just solving the ODE in the "simplest" way

Derek Elkins‭ wrote over 1 year ago

There is not a "singular" way of solving a boundary condition problem, so saying "solve this problem as a boundary condition problem" doesn't specify an approach. Nevertheless, I assume you mean something like this. This corresponds to my second paragraph; we're just straight-up noticing that the problem is of the form of an eigenvalue problem for a differential operator. If this is what you had in mind, then I don't understand your question.

The eigenfunctions are the solutions to the unconstrained problem and the eigenvalues have whatever physical significance they have in the problem. So the "physical meaning" is the same as the "physical meaning" of these things in the problem. For this example, the eigenfunction will be the trajectory of the mass and the eigenvalue is the spring constant. The physical meaning of the solution doesn't change based on how you found it.