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Problems Find a trajectory such that the action is a minimum

A particle is subjected to the potential V (x) = −F x, where F is a constant. The particle travels from x = 0 to x = a in a time interval t0 . Assume the motion of the particle can be expressed i...

1 answer  ·  posted 2y ago by deleted user  ·  edited 2y ago by Trilarion‭

#2: Post edited by user avatar Trilarion‭ · 2021-12-10T07:52:27Z (over 2 years ago)
put whole problem in quote and slightly improved title
  • Find the values of A, B, and C such that the action is a minimum
  • Find a trajectory such that the action is a minimum
  • > A particle is subjected to the potential V (x) = −F x, where F is a constant. The
  • particle travels from x = 0 to x = a in a time interval t0 . Assume the motion of the
  • particle can be expressed in the form $x(t) = A + B t + C t^2$ . Find the values of A, B,
  • and C such that the action is a minimum.
  • I was thinking it can solved using Lagrangian rather than Hamilton. There's no frictional force.
  • $$L=\frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2+Fx$$
  • $$\frac{d}{dt}(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}})-\frac{\partial L}{\partial x}=0$$
  • $$m\ddot{x}=F$$
  • $$\ddot{x}=\frac{F}{m}$$
  • Differentiate $x(t)$ twice. $$2C=\frac{F}{m}=>C=\frac{F}{2m}$$
  • For finding B I was thinking to integrate $\ddot{x}$ once. $$\dot{x}=\int \ddot{x} \mathrm dt$$
  • $$=\ddot{x}t$$
  • initial position is 0 so, not writing constant.
  • $$\dot{x}=\frac{F}{m}$$
  • Differentiate $x(t)$ once.
  • $$B+2Ct=\frac{F}{m}$$
  • $$B=\frac{F}{m}-\frac{2Ft}{2m}$$
  • $$=-\frac{Ft}{2m}$$
  • Again, going to integrate $\ddot{x}$ twice.
  • $$x=\int \int \ddot{x} dt dt$$
  • $$=\frac{\ddot{x}t^2}{2}$$
  • initial velocity and initial position is 0.
  • $$x=\frac{Ft^2}{2m}$$
  • $$A+Bt+Ct^2=\frac{Ft^2}{2m}$$
  • $$A=\frac{Ft^2+Ft-F}{2m}$$
  • According to my, I think that C is the minimum (I think B is cause, B is negative; negative is less than positive). And, A is maximum.
  • A person were saying that `It asked you to minimise the action; it told you the particle moved from $0$ to $a$ in time $t_0$; it gave you the equation of the trajectory.`
  • In my work where should I put the interval?
  • > A particle is subjected to the potential V (x) = −F x, where F is a constant. The particle travels from x = 0 to x = a in a time interval t0 . Assume the motion of the particle can be expressed in the form $x(t) = A + B t + C t^2$ . Find the values of A, B, and C such that the action is a minimum.
  • I was thinking it can solved using Lagrangian rather than Hamilton. There's no frictional force.
  • $$L=\frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2+Fx$$
  • $$\frac{d}{dt}(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}})-\frac{\partial L}{\partial x}=0$$
  • $$m\ddot{x}=F$$
  • $$\ddot{x}=\frac{F}{m}$$
  • Differentiate $x(t)$ twice. $$2C=\frac{F}{m}=>C=\frac{F}{2m}$$
  • For finding B I was thinking to integrate $\ddot{x}$ once. $$\dot{x}=\int \ddot{x} \mathrm dt$$
  • $$=\ddot{x}t$$
  • initial position is 0 so, not writing constant.
  • $$\dot{x}=\frac{F}{m}$$
  • Differentiate $x(t)$ once.
  • $$B+2Ct=\frac{F}{m}$$
  • $$B=\frac{F}{m}-\frac{2Ft}{2m}$$
  • $$=-\frac{Ft}{2m}$$
  • Again, going to integrate $\ddot{x}$ twice.
  • $$x=\int \int \ddot{x} dt dt$$
  • $$=\frac{\ddot{x}t^2}{2}$$
  • initial velocity and initial position is 0.
  • $$x=\frac{Ft^2}{2m}$$
  • $$A+Bt+Ct^2=\frac{Ft^2}{2m}$$
  • $$A=\frac{Ft^2+Ft-F}{2m}$$
  • According to my, I think that C is the minimum (I think B is cause, B is negative; negative is less than positive). And, A is maximum.
  • A person were saying that `It asked you to minimise the action; it told you the particle moved from $0$ to $a$ in time $t_0$; it gave you the equation of the trajectory.`
  • In my work where should I put the interval?
#1: Initial revision by (deleted user) · 2021-09-07T16:25:02Z (over 2 years ago)
Find the values of A, B, and C such that the action is a minimum
> A particle is subjected to the potential V (x) = −F x, where F is a constant. The

particle travels from x = 0 to x = a in a time interval t0 . Assume the motion of the

particle can be expressed in the form $x(t) = A + B t + C t^2$ . Find the values of A, B,

and C such that the action is a minimum.



I was thinking it can solved using Lagrangian rather than Hamilton. There's no frictional force.



$$L=\frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2+Fx$$

$$\frac{d}{dt}(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}})-\frac{\partial L}{\partial x}=0$$

$$m\ddot{x}=F$$

$$\ddot{x}=\frac{F}{m}$$

Differentiate $x(t)$ twice. $$2C=\frac{F}{m}=>C=\frac{F}{2m}$$



For finding B I was thinking to integrate $\ddot{x}$ once. $$\dot{x}=\int \ddot{x} \mathrm dt$$

$$=\ddot{x}t$$

initial position is 0 so, not writing constant.



$$\dot{x}=\frac{F}{m}$$

Differentiate $x(t)$ once.

$$B+2Ct=\frac{F}{m}$$

$$B=\frac{F}{m}-\frac{2Ft}{2m}$$

$$=-\frac{Ft}{2m}$$



Again, going to integrate $\ddot{x}$ twice.

$$x=\int \int \ddot{x} dt dt$$

$$=\frac{\ddot{x}t^2}{2}$$



initial velocity and initial position is 0.



$$x=\frac{Ft^2}{2m}$$

$$A+Bt+Ct^2=\frac{Ft^2}{2m}$$

$$A=\frac{Ft^2+Ft-F}{2m}$$



According to my, I think that C is the minimum (I think B is cause, B is negative; negative is less than positive). And, A is maximum. 

A person were saying that `It asked you to minimise the action; it told you the particle moved from $0$ to $a$ in time $t_0$; it gave you the equation of the trajectory.`

In my work where should I put the interval?