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Unusual way to write spacetime coordinates/metric: Is there any downside?

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In special relativity, spacetime coordinates are normally given as $$(ct, x, y, z) \tag{S}$$ with the metric being either $$g = \operatorname{diag}(-1,1,1,1) \tag{+}$$ or $$g = \operatorname{diag}(1,-1,-1,-1) \tag{$-$}$$ depending on which sign convention the author prefers (the second one seems to be most commonly used one).

The effect is that all coordinates, including the time coordinate, are given in space units. On the other hand, proper time $\tau$ is always given without the factor $c$ (i.e. not as $c\tau$), that is in time units.

Now there is no fundamental reason to use space units instead of time units, in particular for the $(-)$ case in which timelike intervals get positive squared metric. This would mean to specify points as $$(t,x/c,y/c,z/c) \tag{T}$$ instead.

Now it seems clear to me why this option is not used: With the standard convention the 4-equivalents of 3-vectors get the same units as the corresponding 3-vectors. For example, the 4-momentum vector $$p=(mc \frac{\mathrm dt}{\mathrm d\tau}, m\frac{\mathrm dx}{\mathrm d\tau}, m\frac{\mathrm dy}{\mathrm d\tau}, m\frac{\mathrm dz}{\mathrm d\tau})$$ has actually the units of a momentum; in particular the space components directly give the 3-momentum.

However I think there is a better way to do this. This is based on the observation that for coordinate systems like polar coordinates not all coordinates have the same unit, and the unit difference is then reflected in the metric. Therefore I see no reason not to do the same also for spacetime coordinates.

In this scheme, the spacetime coordinates would be written simply as $$(t,x,y,z) \tag{M}$$ and the corresponding metric (choosing the length to be in spatial units, like in the standard convention) would be $$g = \operatorname{diag}(-c^2,1,1,1) \tag{$+'$}$$ or $$g = \operatorname{diag}(c^2,-1,-1,-1) \tag{$-'$}$$

This convention would IMHO have several advantages:

  • Unlike the standard convention $(\mathrm S)$, $(\mathrm M)$ would be consistent with the fact that proper time is always given without the $c$ factor in the context of relativity.

  • But unlike $(\mathrm T)$ (and unlike the option to just use $c\tau$ for the proper time for consistency), the choice $(\mathrm M)$ keeps the usual units for the spacelike components of 4-vectors. For example, the four-momentum in that convention is $$p=(m\frac{\mathrm dt}{\mathrm d\tau}, m\frac{\mathrm dx}{\mathrm d\tau}, m\frac{\mathrm dy}{\mathrm d\tau}, m\frac{\mathrm dz}{\mathrm d\tau})$$ Clearly the space components are the 3-momentum in usual units. The time component (which gives the energy) isn't in conventional units (instead it is in mass units, thus giving the “relativistic mass” $E/c^2$), but it isn't in the standard convention either (where the time component is $E/c$).

Now my question is: Is there any downside (other than “it's not what is commonly done”) to the convention $(\mathrm M)$?

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There is no problem with the approach you suggest: it's equivalent to deciding to use seconds and light-seconds as your units for space-time four vectors instead of light-meters and meters. (I actually prefer that when I want to connect to human scaled measurements.)

But ... most professionals who use relativity regularly (cosmologists, particle physicists, etc.) work in "natural" units meaning that they basically just agree not to write down factors of $c$ (and of $\hbar$ and $G$, though that doesn't come up in special relativity) at all. It is understood that because you know what physical quantity is represented by each symbol you can figure out how to restore the constants if needed. This is sometime described a "setting $c$, $\hbar$, and $G$ to one", though I find that this phrase doesn't explain the procedure very well to newcomers.

The result is that the question you're considering is interesting to physicists only during a relatively narrow window between starting to grapple with relativity and adopting the professional viewpoint.

I don't personally like to add yet another option to the several scheme that are already to be found in common texts (and I considered linking the XKCD comic on Standards).

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celtschk‭ wrote about 3 years ago

I think that “seconds and light seconds” refers to convention (T), but what I actually proposed was convention (M), where you'd use seconds and meters just as in non-relativistic physics, and the light is purely in the metric. BTW, if you set all three of $\hbar$, $c$ and $G$ to $1$, what you actually get are Planck units. Natural units only set $\hbar$ and $c$ to $1$.

dmckee‭ wrote about 3 years ago · edited about 3 years ago

@celtschk "Natural units" is a broader term—it can refers to any scheme where you drop constants—and I was educated before "Planck units" had become popular. For instance I took general relativity from James Hartle (while he was developing his textbook on the subject) and he described the units he used as "natural".